tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6564155214348055642.post3002179230802872148..comments2023-10-12T06:48:28.266-07:00Comments on Aviation Critic & Enthusiast: Time to "Scale Back" our Expectations for Composites?Phil Bellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02845059507310419482noreply@blogger.comBlogger134125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6564155214348055642.post-87924854075989404702021-02-15T22:37:36.127-08:002021-02-15T22:37:36.127-08:00This was a useful post and I think it's fairly...This was a useful post and I think it's fairly easy to see in the other reviews, so this post is well written and useful. Keep up the good work.<br /><a href="http://www.tecsedetensile.com/walkaway-tensile-structures-manufacturers-in-punjab" rel="nofollow"><b>Walkaway Tensile Structures Manufacturers in Punjab</b></a><br /><a href="http://www.tecsedetensile.com/walkaway-tensile-structures-manufacturers-in-punjab" rel="nofollow"><b>Walkaway Tensile Structures Manufacturers in Jalandhar</b></a>Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01874169405861530891noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6564155214348055642.post-48738968284864883922010-01-14T00:03:18.994-08:002010-01-14T00:03:18.994-08:00No, I'm not dead (yet!)- just dead tired! :)
...No, I'm not dead (yet!)- just dead tired! :)<br /><br />New headline post is up- sorry for the delay.<br /><br />More of the same- investigation of "mass ratios" (empty vs mtow)- but for business jet class (sorta anyway) aircraft.<br /><br />(And last of the same, for a while anyway- I hope the topic was not as exhausted as I am! :)<br /><br />Some surprises- to me anyway.<br /><br />Happy reading!<br /><br />p.s.- For a future topic- I wish we had some good metrics on the costs of composite design and fabrication- feel free to speak up! <br /><br />(Or email if you prefer: aviationcritic@gmail.com)<br />Thanks.Phil Bellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02845059507310419482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6564155214348055642.post-52695566244329313832010-01-13T20:55:59.417-08:002010-01-13T20:55:59.417-08:00By the way - this Delta flight was being flown by ...By the way - this Delta flight was being flown by the "acquired" NWA crew, ops, plane.Baron95https://www.blogger.com/profile/01421355643916832199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6564155214348055642.post-82073318054174784792010-01-13T20:54:31.685-08:002010-01-13T20:54:31.685-08:00Oh, if you want to see all the above findings you ...Oh, if you want to see all the above findings you can go to the NTSB DL188 docs folder at http://www.ntsb.gov/Dockets/Aviation/DCA10IA001/default.htmBaron95https://www.blogger.com/profile/01421355643916832199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6564155214348055642.post-20054328684363065222010-01-13T20:49:47.936-08:002010-01-13T20:49:47.936-08:00Hey Phil ---- How about doing a story on gross neg...Hey Phil ---- How about doing a story on gross negligence and cover up by professional flight crews and their unions?<br /><br />We can start with Delta 188, where after being out of ATC radio contact and ignoring multiple ACARS messages, DL 188 pilots and Delta's chief pilot apparently engaged in a concerted effort to delete evidence from investigators.<br /><br />Among their actions:<br /><br />1 - DL188 Co-Pilot, when he should be concentrating in correcting their mistake and landing safely and without further incident, decided to engage in erasing at least 8 ACARS messages "Call ATC", "ATC looking for you", etc.<br /><br />2 - Delta Assistant Chief Pilot, boards the plane after landing, and contrary to SOP does not pull the CVR CB. Instead, He or DL188 crew or other Delta union personnel, proceed to turn on power to the plane at 10PM, 11PM and 2AM, for no apparent reason, each time managing to erase 5 min of the 30min CVR tape.<br /><br />3 - Mysteriously, all the flight documents, including flight plan, which both the chief pilot and the crew should have retained per SOP on an incident, also vanished.<br /><br />And then there are their excuses for the above action to the NTSB - real gems:<br /><br />"While we never want to interfere with the duties of other agencies, this delay prevents the CVR circuit breakers from being pulled in a timely fashion and in this case, it was at least a causal factor in the flight documents being gathered,"<br /><br />HAHAHA LEOs left the scene shortly after the landing once terrorism was ruled out (it was never really suspected after the crew contacted ATC). The powering of the plane repeatedly after that, many hours after LEOs left was nothing but a deliberate attempt to erase as much of the CVR as possible.<br /><br />"I don't know if the crew retained [the paperwork] or due to their distraught state discarded them as we normally do on domestic, uneventful flights."<br /><br />Hahaha - SOP - after an incident, preserve and secure all available data. Was the Chief pilot also distraught and forgot his basic duties to pull the CVR CB and collect the flight docs? Please!!!!<br /><br />The [first officer] said he inadvertently pushed the 'delete all' button which erased all the messages." Yes, right!!!!<br /><br />This is shameful. These guys should never fly so much as a Piper Cub again. And the assistant Chief Pilot should be fired if not charged with interfering with a Federal Accident Investigation.<br /><br />I'm totally against bringing LEO into accident/incident investigations, but in this case, there may be post incident criminal activity. I want that to be investigated.<br /><br />Not the incident. The post incident cover-up.<br /><br />Shame on DL188 crew and the Assistant Chief Pilot.<br /><br />I hope the mainstream press picks up on this.Baron95https://www.blogger.com/profile/01421355643916832199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6564155214348055642.post-2797730081889199012010-01-13T15:30:13.796-08:002010-01-13T15:30:13.796-08:00And Phil, too bad your A400 thread is dormant. Des...And Phil, too bad your A400 thread is dormant. Despite first flight, the real news is what has transpired in the past couple of weeks and revealed on the Airbus conf call.<br /><br />According to Airbus, they are burning through $100M Euros/month on the A400 and that is unsustainable. Airbus had made loss provisions of $2.4B Euros on the project. The member countries can cancel all orders outright, due to Airbus delays on the A400.<br /><br /><b> Elders said yesterday, "In its current form, the A400M program puts all of Airbus in jeopardy" </b>Baron95https://www.blogger.com/profile/01421355643916832199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6564155214348055642.post-2580422617598970682010-01-13T15:25:24.470-08:002010-01-13T15:25:24.470-08:00Oh, and speaking about their A350, he said... &quo...Oh, and speaking about their A350, he said... "Airbus encountered some “challenges” dealing with composite wings and fuselage, including systems installation and incorporating lightening strike protection, a requirement for planes built with composites instead of aluminum.<br /><br />Combine that with the CFO's revelation that Airbus had used the A350 schedule buffer and the fact that the A358 will now be a heavy straight shrink from the A359, and the stage is set for some pain at Airbus new composite twin jetliner.Baron95https://www.blogger.com/profile/01421355643916832199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6564155214348055642.post-39340085215747727822010-01-13T15:22:35.458-08:002010-01-13T15:22:35.458-08:00Shane said...Methinks the 787 is also in real trou...Shane said...Methinks the 787 is also in real trouble. The so called 'long and thin' route model looks ever more difficult to justify in an era when full body scanners<br />----------------<br /><br />Well, I think full body scanners will have many positive effects. Like people may decide to lose some weight and women will decide to wear prettier underwear to travel. Plus, just think about how much fun it will be when the scanners come down in price and are installed at the mall and movie theater.<br /><br />As to your concern about the 787 and long and thin, I think you are misguided. Air travel will continue to increase - just think about what will happen when the other 2B Chinese and Indians can afford air travel. There will be more destinations and more routes. And the more airport hassle there is, the more people will want to fly direct.<br /><br />You should be worried about the A380. Airbus began 2009 with a goal of delivering 18 A380s, before dropping the target to 14 after some airlines asked to defer. In the end, the planemaker only managed to hand over 10.<br /><br />Tom Elders, Airbus CEO, just said on the press conference yesterday that “The A380 will still be a financial liability of the company for years to come,” “I’m not happy with the cost situation, it needs significant improvement." <br /><br />Planned deliveries were 80% higher than actual deliveries and reading Elders comments, it seems like every plane is being delivered at a loss, even after all the billions that were previously written off.<br /><br />Not a good situation for Airbus.Baron95https://www.blogger.com/profile/01421355643916832199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6564155214348055642.post-52893166907873006932010-01-13T14:26:55.374-08:002010-01-13T14:26:55.374-08:00Shane said...but then Fox News thinks Sarah Palin ...Shane said...but then Fox News thinks Sarah Palin will 'add weight' to its commentary team<br />-------------<br /><br />Shane, that is naughty of you to insinuate that Sarah Palin is fat.<br /><br />For the record, I think she is *hot*. ;)Baron95https://www.blogger.com/profile/01421355643916832199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6564155214348055642.post-45336491053389475192010-01-13T14:07:33.108-08:002010-01-13T14:07:33.108-08:00"the right prop for the job might indeed be d..."the right prop for the job might indeed be diferent than the 402s..."<br /><br />I am just concerned that if they keep flogging those worn-out 402s on their routes they will have a <br />"Chalk Airlines moment". They have already come as close as you can get to a main spar failure and escaped once.airsafetymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07923869957339462116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6564155214348055642.post-63851984212899962102010-01-13T06:47:16.481-08:002010-01-13T06:47:16.481-08:00Plain Truth,
I post, quite a bit, about other sub...Plain Truth,<br /><br />I post, quite a bit, about other subjects. On this thread alone I've commented on my experience (limited, but practical) with composite canoes, the weight effects of added facilities in modern airliners, the correct name for Vern Raburn, risk management on ski slopes where the locals dish out gunpowder like snuff at a wake and sundry other matters.<br /><br />But....<br /><br />It's still a dead parrot. It's not asleep and it's not resting. The only reason it's still going is some of the misguided owners, who've 'nailed' it to its perch.<br /><br />Sooner or later someone, somewhere is going to point this out. It might be a bank, it could be the FAA, or possibly disgruntled suppliers. There could even be an sudden influx of common sense at Eclipse Aerospace.<br /><br />I personally think the latter is unlikely, but then Fox News thinks Sarah Palin will 'add weight' to its commentary team, so anything <i>is</i> possible.<br /><br />So, thanks for the opportunity to clarify my position on this matter. Anytime it tickles your fancy, feel free to post another, similarly ill informed comment.<br /><br />ShaneShane Pricehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06571348452899329376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6564155214348055642.post-81141324347273398562010-01-13T06:07:13.612-08:002010-01-13T06:07:13.612-08:00Shane said... Some people will never get it. This ...Shane said... Some people will never get it. This is a dead parrot, and nothing, but nothing will revive it now. There was a small window of opportunity during the Chapter 11/7 mess, but the hubris of a few prevented a logical outcome.<br /><br />Shane, that fact that you still can't post without taking another poke at the expired Eclipse or the existing Eclipse is proof that it is not yet dead. <b>Deal with it.</b>gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17457192546044419517noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6564155214348055642.post-44816007726454238042010-01-12T18:59:31.825-08:002010-01-12T18:59:31.825-08:00ahh, yes, ASman... the right prop for the job migh...ahh, yes, ASman... the right prop for the job might indeed be diferent than the 402s... you are correct.<br /><br />Just not a jet, which is my point.<br /><br />Thanksairtaximanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12977944795556689805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6564155214348055642.post-30112399691160902882010-01-11T22:25:39.064-08:002010-01-11T22:25:39.064-08:00Phil Bell said...But there was great effort expend...Phil Bell said...But there was great effort expended to make sure people knew they were NOT flying on DC-10's<br />----------------------------<br /><br />Please - The DC-10 is an unfortunate airliner - with I think 3-dozen or so hull losses. By comparison, the 777 fleet has flown more passenger miles with only the recent LHR hull loss. The DC-10 has killed over 1,000 of its customers, the 777 none.<br /><br />It is a different world.<br /><br />If any widebody airliner today started falling out of the sky in the numbers the DC-10 displayed, it would be a monumental event.<br /><br />Having said that, the flying public continued to fly on DC-10s and MD-11s until the 777 and A330 put them out of business along with the L-1011.Baron95https://www.blogger.com/profile/01421355643916832199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6564155214348055642.post-57207447507995348772010-01-11T21:10:15.746-08:002010-01-11T21:10:15.746-08:00New headline delayed another day due to work- will...New headline delayed another day due to work- will be up Wednesay AM- sorry for the delay.Phil Bellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02845059507310419482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6564155214348055642.post-6842114547974989702010-01-11T21:09:01.216-08:002010-01-11T21:09:01.216-08:00Hi Baron,
"what was the last new type FAR/EAS...Hi Baron,<br /><i>"what was the last new type FAR/EASA-part 23 plane certified as an US design by an US OEM? Was it the Mustang and Eclipse?"</i><br /><br />Sounds good to me.<br /><br /><i>"I still don't know what further evidence you guys need that the US is falling way behind in part 23 and in particular piston part 23."</i><br /><br />Hmmm. I think the SUD is a nice airplane. Whether it outperforms, or outsells, any of the 30-40 year old designs in the US remains to be seen though. I wouldn't discount lack of inventiveness here- gobs of activity during the VLJ craze. No money in anything smaller. (In fact, not much money in anything the same size).<br /><br />"<i>What they and their customers (the airlines and leasing companies) will do is stress the lower fares (and perhaps the better air environment) that the 787 will allow."</i><br /><br />I think they'll push the lighting control, overhead bins, and entertainment systems. And air quality too. And maybe smoother ride with flexy wings.<br /><br /><i>"Seriously? Do you think the flying public knows what kind of twin jetliner they are in, let alone the nuances of construction techniques?"</i><br /><br />I think when they look out the window and see the wing flapping, they will.<br /><br /><i>"Safety WILL NEVER EVER BE MENTIONED to the "flying public"."</i><br /><br />I agree, the airlines don't benefit from saying "Fly With Us- Our Planes Crash Less Often!"<br /><br />But there was great effort expended to make sure people knew they were NOT flying on DC-10's.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.jstor.org/pss/2630903" rel="nofollow">DC-10 post-Chicago ramifications</a>Phil Bellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02845059507310419482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6564155214348055642.post-17914791050043697882010-01-11T20:01:33.791-08:002010-01-11T20:01:33.791-08:00You are a good man, Air Safety Man.You are a good man, Air Safety Man.Floating Cloudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05299351963639492717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6564155214348055642.post-78214548501888877902010-01-11T16:57:15.821-08:002010-01-11T16:57:15.821-08:00"the MV route requires cape air, with their p..."the MV route requires cape air, with their props... which are in fact the right craft for the job..."<br /><br />Cape Air really, really, really needs to deep six the worn out Cessna 402s and go to something like the the Saab 340s or deHavilland Dash 8s - at least.airsafetymanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07923869957339462116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6564155214348055642.post-21519262228437807872010-01-11T16:00:03.224-08:002010-01-11T16:00:03.224-08:00while you all contemplate your navels, thinking ab...while you all contemplate your navels, thinking about eclipse-BS long gone... there are real developments within the markets Vern tried to play in, and lost BIG TIME.<br /><br />Acquasitions abound in GA... airlines buying charter companies... there's a fleet brewing with around 100 real biz jets (no VLJs mind you) in GA providing taxi service at real affordable prices.. and new models as well like cogojet and flygreenjets.com... not jet models, but BUSINESS models... taking root.<br /><br />You won't find them from the shore to Martha's Vinyard, though... that's too small amarket. Try NY-LA or NY-Chicago or NY-Florida... the MV route requires cape air, with their props... which are in fact the right craft for the job... unless your ego demands a jet...<br /><br />The baron's are lost perfecting buggy whips and complaining about old companies inability to adjust, while the oldest biz models... such as the airlnes... invest and reinvent themselves with new business models to provide service levels only once dreamed of on the airlines... and now are becoming a reality for everyday travelers via business jets. YES, OLD FASHINED BUSINESS JETS....<br /><br />A lot of this stuff is going on, while the complainers just complain.... look in all the right places, stop bitching and look hard at the real progress... you will awake TODAY and notice a strong revival for GA, again NOT based opn BS craft promises, but real proven jets... my advice FWIW.airtaximanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12977944795556689805noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6564155214348055642.post-49963394627113247412010-01-11T15:24:47.629-08:002010-01-11T15:24:47.629-08:00Baron:
Guess I misunderstood your comment, with a...Baron:<br /><br />Guess I misunderstood your comment, with all the talk about window sizes, air quality, and airplane construction! Nevertheless, good to know some of your suggestions for better airplane comfort. After reading this blog for since March of last year I am one of the few people in the public sphere who now does think about the airplane (and safety) itself. Could be a curse too!;)<br /><br />In the mean time, I will take special note of "Baron's Best of Airplanes Picks." Is there a book here? <br /><br />I was also happy and surprised to see that you like specific airplanes on Mexicana Airlines. It's been one of my favorite airlines for years. With all the work I used to do in Mexico sometimes flying there every six weeks I found Mexicana to be quite pleasent -- staff, space, even the food was decent or at least it used to be.... <br /><br />Thanks!<br />Floating CloudFloating Cloudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05299351963639492717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6564155214348055642.post-8315323262667951462010-01-11T11:26:47.152-08:002010-01-11T11:26:47.152-08:00Floating Cloud said...I found it most interesting ...Floating Cloud said...I found it most interesting that Baron picks and chooses specific airplanes on commercial flights (when needed) for environmental comfort.<br />------------------------<br /><br />Its not so much for environmental comfort. It is for ease of upgrading, in-flight services (e.g. video on demand and internet access), large baggage bins for fast boarding and space, number of isles, number of premium seats and class of service (for ease of upgrading), etc.<br /><br />Example, I can fly to MEX on an A319 Mexicana-operated code share with AA. That plane has large bins that fit all the roll-on wheels first on both sides, VOD, lots of first class seats (for upgrading), wide isles, wider seats. The FAs are generally young, energetic, motivated, fit, pleasant.<br /><br />OR<br /><br />I can fly on a decrepit, smelly, AA DC-9 (er MD80). That is a VERY LOOOOONNNNNG tube, with narrow seats and isles, only fits roll-ons wheels first on one side - it is a nightmare to board - takes fully twice as long. It has no video at all - not only a drop down TV, let alone AVOD. The trim is falling apart. If you are unfortunate enough to sit in the last 10 rows, the noise of the engines (inches away from your face, will be deafening, and lets not talk about the wonderful personal appearance and demeanor of the 55 year old AA FAs.<br /><br />So, yep - I pick A319 vs MD80 every time.<br /><br />Same deal going over the Atlantic. I pick a BA777 vs an AA 767or 757 (soon).<br /><br />To Asia, I want to be on 77Ws or A380s from SQ, CX, etc.<br /><br />You bet I pick the plane and the operator. But not for environmental reasons.<br /><br />Would I pick an AA 787 over a 767? YES. Will I pick it over a CX 77W? I don't know yet - lets see how AA configures it.<br /><br />My priority for booking is:<br />1 - AA or One World carrier - for miles.<br />2 - The factors above.<br />3 - Price (only determinant if it is more than a few hundred bucks difference), typically not an issue.<br /><br />But the "flying public" books based on price, then price, then price, than loyalty program, then schedule, then carrier, then airport,... Few if any book based on plane.Baron95https://www.blogger.com/profile/01421355643916832199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6564155214348055642.post-30899642849720235822010-01-11T11:08:44.355-08:002010-01-11T11:08:44.355-08:00Phil Bell said...It will be up to Boeing to instil...Phil Bell said...It will be up to Boeing to instill some confidence in the flying public<br />------------------<br /><br />Seriously? Do you think the flying public knows what kind of twin jetliner they are in, let alone the nuances of construction techniques?<br /><br />99%+ of fliers have no clue if they are in an A330 or 767 or 777. They certainly have no idea what engines are on the wings, and few even know who is operating the plane on a code share flight.<br /><br />I doubt very much Boeing will "instill confidence" in the flying public as it relates to the 787.<br /><br />What they and their customers (the airlines and leasing companies) will do is stress the lower fares (and perhaps the better air environment) that the 787 will allow.<br /><br />Safety WILL NEVER EVER BE MENTIONED to the "flying public".Baron95https://www.blogger.com/profile/01421355643916832199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6564155214348055642.post-64311974535300309622010-01-11T10:14:11.658-08:002010-01-11T10:14:11.658-08:00Phil Bell said...
Hi Baron,
Thanks for the...Phil Bell said...<br /> Hi Baron,<br /> Thanks for the tip on the piston-twin from Europe- congrats<br />--------------------------<br /><br />Phil, what was the last new type FAR/EASA-part 23 plane certified as an US design by an US OEM?<br /><br />Was it the Mustang and Eclipse?<br /><br />What was the last piston twin? Was it the Mojave back in 84? (I'm discounting the Adam-500 here as it was a failed attempt and never reached full IFR/FIKI certification before it died).<br /><br />What was the last piston single? Was that the Cirrus and Columbia?<br /><br />I can't even remember anymore.<br /><br />I'm talking about really new types here, not type amendments.<br /><br />Catch my drift?<br /><br />In the meantime multiple new piston singles and twins (e.g. DA42, Sud) are coming from Europe and jets from Brazil.<br /><br />I still don't know what further evidence you guys need that the US is falling way behind in part 23 and in particular piston part 23.<br /><br />That was my whole point in posting about the SUD.Baron95https://www.blogger.com/profile/01421355643916832199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6564155214348055642.post-43560832146024857562010-01-11T08:52:46.659-08:002010-01-11T08:52:46.659-08:00Dear Phil:
Mais non, mon amie! Ce n'est pas v...Dear Phil:<br /><br />Mais non, mon amie! Ce n'est pas votre faute!<br /><br />In this fascinating discussion about materials, which you began Oh Blog Miester, I don't think anyone on the blog was 100 percent ready to get on board with composites -- yet! It will happen but not before Boeing is truely ready. I hope!<br /><br />In the mean time, I found it most interesting that Baron picks and chooses specific airplanes on commercial flights (when needed) for environmental comfort. What is the physiology of jet-lag for human beings? Presure? Humidity? Too many alchoholic drinks? Not enough alcoholic drinks? Steerage vs 1st class -- done it all from Asia and Europe to the US and still come out lagged upon my return home but not on the out bound? <br /><br />Truely stymied, <br />Floating CloudFloating Cloudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05299351963639492717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6564155214348055642.post-59067059265632646062010-01-11T08:04:58.272-08:002010-01-11T08:04:58.272-08:00Just received this from Linear Air:
"Jet Awa...Just received this from Linear Air:<br /><br />"Jet Away to the Bahamas with Linear Air<br /><br />With cold temperatures sweeping across the country there has never been a better time to get away to the beautiful islands of the Bahamas. <br /><br />Whether you stay for a weekend or longer, Linear Air will pick you up at an airport close to your home and get you to the islands commercial service can't. Fly on your time, not theirs and avoid long security delays.<br /><br />Aboard Linear Air's Eclipse 500 jet, you'll experience the jet set style at a fraction of the cost. With one way pricing from Boston and New York under $9,900 making it to the Bahamas has never been this easy! <br /><br /><br />Contact our customer service team today to discuss pricing for your Bahamian getaway. Email customerservice@linearair.com or call 877-2-LINEAR x2 (877-254-6327 x2)."<br /><br />I haven't called them but I thought the plane hasn't been flying. I wonder if it has been upgraded to FIKI?<br /><br />ex Turboprop_pilotTurboprop_pilothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03699307110210532832noreply@blogger.com